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smshirk
30th November 2008, 11:29
I was wondering how the economy is affecting life in general in other parts of the world. I am 55, and have not seen anything like what is happening here. Restaurants are empty, except for Mcdonalds, and cheaper places like that. All the department stores, like Macy's are not selling clothes, home furnishings, and such, but Walmart, a huge discount store is booming. Cars are dirt cheap, both new and used. The only thing selling here are Huyndais, Hondas, and used small economy cars. Many of my friends are being laid off from their jobs, mostly large companies with pension plans and good benefits. We hear on the news that the rest of the world is doing worse than we are, but one cannot trust the news agencies to report what is actually happening. We do get some BBC news from Britain, but even that is Americanized.

I am just curious really. I have done OK for myself, though I'm not wealthy, I am comfortable and had the good sense and good luck to get my investments into cash positions about a year ago. I watch the stock markets around the world, but that doesn't really reflect life on the street. Since I know nothing about life outside our sheltered U.S.anyway, your opinions would be most valuable to me. By the way, I love your cars, and enjoy the new forum immensely. I am most excited about the world view, and world communications. Rennlist and Pelican is mostly just us rednecks in the states, and I don't mean that in a negative way. I assign no negative connotation to the redneck term. I was raised in the state of Tennessee over here. For those of you who know little about the U.S., it is one of the more backward areas. Even today it is not uncommon to see people at checkout lines who cannot write checks. The clerks do it for them and the customer makes his "mark" You would think that went out 100 or more years ago, but still happens in the towns nearest the mountain communities.

I have four Porsches which are worth half or less than they were a few months ago. Not that it matters, because I don't care to sell any of them. I wish my 968 were a coupe rather than a cab since I have the Boxster, and an absolutely cherry 1990 Miata. Not a Porsche, but lots of fun factor on the twisties. I may supercharge or turbo charge it someday, but perhaps not.

.Lefteris.
30th November 2008, 13:14
Good mornign my friend Steve!

Things in Greece are not that bad!
Last night I was with my friends to one of the very good Restaurants that we have here in Athens and it was FULL, and the night before I was with my Family to an other good Restaurants, we have many and all of them are full, you need to wait in many cases in order to find a table to seat, and to some others if you have not close a table at least 3-4 days before, you better forgot it.

On the other hand I have friends that say that business are not the same as they use to de, but I hear this words at least for the last 20 years and at the same time all of them drive a new Mercedes or some hi end SUV....

Ok there is always the exceptions, like the Car market here in Greece (very bad times for them) and the expensive goodies!
And the lower classes that always have had big problems, especially after the Euro....currency
But in general we are good, or just, not that bad as you say our US friends are...!
So my friend Steve, I beleive that the crisis at least here in Greece (in most cases) it is only in our heads!
Regards
Lefteris

BlueMaxMtl
30th November 2008, 14:09
Steve,

We Canadians are trailing right behind you. As you already know, whenever the Americans sneeze we get wet.

Purchasing in general by most here in Canada has come down quite a bit from what it used to be. I'm now seeing 50" plasma screen TV's selling for under $900 and can't believe how this is possible.

New car dealers selling American-made vehicles are hurting the most. They're dumping mini-vans on the market at less than cost price. Chrysler is promoting once again their "employee discount" where one can purchase a base-type mini-van with faily equipped options such as power windows, cruise, door locks, etc.. for under $17K.

In the meantime, this sudden decline in purchasing has caused somewhat of a pandemonium amongst consumers resulting in a near-full stop on buying any consumer goods that are considered "unnecessary".

In the beginning of the year, I had plunked down a small deposit for a 12-month wait on a new '09 Audi R8 sportscar. Recently, I withdrew my deposit due to the economic uncertainty.

.Lefteris.
30th November 2008, 14:15
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In the beginning of the year, I had plunked down a small deposit for a 12-month wait on a new '09 Audi R8 sportscar. Recently, I withdrew my deposit due to the economic uncertainty.

:(

blacknight
3rd December 2008, 01:47
Good topic.

Since I'm still employed, I'm spending more this year than previously year. :~ But things will change if the situation changes. USA

Love to hear more on life outside US.

smshirk
20th December 2008, 13:31
Anyone on from Sweden or other states where market driven capitalism isn't the order of the day? I'm not sure that can be said any longer in the US. Since I started this thread, the US government has been bailing out or investing in all manner of US business.

There is more news daily right now that at any time I can recall. Something out of the ordinary is happening on a daily basis, it appears around the world. We have an interesting time about to begin in the states, with our new generation of politicans wo are now appearing to be much the same as all other politicians we are accustomed to.....And I had high hopes right after the election, even though I didn't support Mr. Obama.